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An Interview with Toby and Finn Caldwell, co-directors of Gyre & Gimble

Tue 24 October, 2017

An Interview with Toby and Finn Caldwell, co-directors of Gyre & Gimble

Co-Directors of Gyre & Gimble, Toby and Finn Caldwell take some time out of rehearsals to tell us more about their latest production, The Hartlepool Monkey.

Tell us a little bit about your staging of The Hartlepool Monkey.

F: Well, quite early on we felt that the whole thing should feel like a shipwreck which moves and transforms through the story. We also wanted the set to be able to be ‘puppeteered’. The actions of moving between scenes feel very physical with our ensemble of actors.

T: And what’s been really exciting is that as the show is touring the UK and visiting lots of different size venues and spaces, we needed to build the production to be self-sufficient in terms of set. The set itself features an open framework, so we have pulleys, masts and other scenic elements which give the feel of being at sea or on a ship which has run aground.

What drew you to the story, and why do you think its relevant now?

F: We’re both from the North East, so we’d grown up with the story to a certain extent.

T: We’d also both just finished working on The Elephantom, and in the aftermath of that we started looking for a story which could have a puppet as an, ideally non-human, central character.

F: After we looked more into the legend and started working on the project, it really became clear to us how relevant the themes are in terms of the current world situation. The ‘us and them’ rhetoric of the story is definitely (unfortunately) apparent in some parts of the world at the moment.

How do you go about making a show like this?

F: We’re still relatively new as a company, having only made a handful of shows together, but we almost always start with the puppet. We find out what the puppet needs to do in the story, how its narrative works, how the physical object works; that’s how we usually prototype.

T: And we usually have two Research and Development stages – one process on solving the puppet and the other on solving the story and the characters around the puppet. On The Hartlepool Monkey this meant sitting down with the writer, Carl Grose, and storyboarding the sequence of scenes for the narrative on paper, developing it from the original myth. For storyboarding, we essentially come up with ideas on a bunch of post-it notes and put them in a line. This allows us, in our very visual brains, to see the arc of characters, the possible set changes between scenes, and we’re able to make sure that the puppetry stays central to the narrative in driving it forward.

Why do you think the show particularly appeals to families?

T: The dynamism of it and the playful sense of anarchy. When we made The Elephantom, (which was for four year olds and their families) we made it using our sense of humour and taste, whilst always remaining being aware of the suitability and engagement of young children.

F: And because puppetry communicates non-verbally, everyone can understand and take something away from the production. So an adult may well be experiencing something more complex, whilst a child is simultaneously being entertained by the more face-value visuals stage.

What’s the story behind Gyre & Gimble, and what have you worked on before?

T & F: We originally met as puppeteers on the original production of War Horse at the National Theatre. We later made The Elephantom and subsequently founded the company in 2014. Since then, all of our Gyre & Gimble projects have been collaborations. We’ve created puppetry for Michael Morpurgo’s Running Wild, Dr Seuss’s The Lorax and a new musical The Grinning Man, but The Hartlepool Monkey is our first project as company leading the creative process and the first fully instigated ‘Gyre & Gimble’ show. 

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